Camaro vs. Volt vs. Bolt.

"Nymphicus Hollandicus" (nymhicus-hollandicus) 07/27/2017 at 10:17 • Filed to: Volt, Camaro, Bolt, New car

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TL;DR: Camaro Turbo 6-speed, Bolt or Volt?

The time has come for my father to turn in his leased 2015 Volt. It has had zero problems (apart from the drivers side window motor) and was a fantastic car to drive. Because he’s a loyal Chevy fan he is going to look at the three cars mentioned in the title. It all comes down to the driving experience and what sort of deal we get.

The inner Jalop in me would say to get the Camaro (it would be a Jalop spec 1LS with the turbo and 6-speed) since that’ll be the quickest, most fun and possibly the cheapest option. The only drawbacks would be that it’s rear-driven and takes premium but with gas prices being the way they are, it won’t matter. It wouldn’t be hard to get a killer deal on one.

We’re both intrigued by the Bolt. The only real concern would be charging but he would easily be able to charge at home overnight. He also thinks it’s ugly. I for one think it’s interesting.

The Volt would be the logical choice, especially since the second generation is much improved over the old one.

nerd_racing > Nymphicus Hollandicus 07/27/2017 at 10:20

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I was going to suggest a good car, but then I saw he is a die-hard Chevy fan. Hopefully you guys find something good out there!

Dave the car guy , still here > Nymphicus Hollandicus 07/27/2017 at 10:21

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Bolt or Camaro. They are speaking of killing the Volt and if that affected any sort of replacement part supply you wouldn’t want to be in that position.

Future next gen S2000 owner > Nymphicus Hollandicus 07/27/2017 at 10:23

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Lease or buy? You don’t specify.

Nymphicus Hollandicus > Future next gen S2000 owner 07/27/2017 at 10:26

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Lease, small possibility I could buy it off of him when his lease is up however.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Nymphicus Hollandicus 07/27/2017 at 10:26

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You come here and expect to be told something other than Camaro?

Nymphicus Hollandicus > Dave the car guy , still here 07/27/2017 at 10:27

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Really? I haven’t heard of any rumors about that... He is going to lease the car for 3 years so I doubt there would be any issues.

Nymphicus Hollandicus > nerd_racing 07/27/2017 at 10:29

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What were you going to suggest? Just curious.

190octane > Nymphicus Hollandicus 07/27/2017 at 10:37

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RWD is a bad thing?

Wobbles the Mind > Nymphicus Hollandicus 07/27/2017 at 10:43

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I would check out Colorados. Diesel, Z71, Redline, other special editions, maybe a leftover Trail Boss, ZR2...

Nymphicus Hollandicus > 190octane 07/27/2017 at 10:44

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I live in NY so we get snow.

bhtooefr > Nymphicus Hollandicus 07/27/2017 at 10:45

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Make sure that the Bolt’s seats agree with your dad. They’re really built for skinnier people, and the seat frames are too narrow for heavier-set people. (Also, make sure that the specific car he’s interested in buying agrees with your dad - there’s variability between individual cars on this front.)

I’ve not driven a Gen 1 Volt, but I really didn’t like the Gen 2's suspension tuning, interior ergonomics, or outward visibility.

Then again, if you’re considering a Camaro, you don’t give a fuck about outward visibility.

Nymphicus Hollandicus > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 07/27/2017 at 10:46

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Oh I’m aware of that. I wonder if this meme is sorta relevant.

Nymphicus Hollandicus > Wobbles the Mind 07/27/2017 at 10:49

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Good suggestion but he is annoyed that you can’t get a crew cab duramax ZR2 with a stick. He also doesn’t need a truck.

LongbowMkII > Nymphicus Hollandicus 07/27/2017 at 10:49

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I wasn’t very impressed by my 1ls/turbo/6mt Camaro test drive. Average all around with better power, still doesn’t FEEL fast.

I promise that makes sense.

Nymphicus Hollandicus > bhtooefr 07/27/2017 at 10:56

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The first Volt’s ergonomics are probably much, much worse than the current one. The touch-sensitive center stack is so dumb, the shifter is stupid and I hate the seats. Even my Hyundai’s seats are at least somewhat comfortable.

Don’t know about the Bolt, I’ve never sat in one.

And who cares about the Camaro’s visibility, the cool factor makes it irrelevant.

nerd_racing > Nymphicus Hollandicus 07/27/2017 at 10:56

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For someone who is probably not interested in doing a whole lot of work, and wanting durability, low depreciation, and good resale value, something Toyota or Honda. More so Toyota.

Arrivederci > Nymphicus Hollandicus 07/27/2017 at 10:58

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Of those three, I’d go Volt. If you get the Camaro, at least spring for the V6 - it’s a much better option than the 4-cylinder turbo. Chevy did it the opposite way from Ford.

Nymphicus Hollandicus > nerd_racing 07/27/2017 at 10:58

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My dad has had an Alfa Romeo Spider so none of those things matter. Except for leasing, he typically drives cars until they die.

Nibbles > Nymphicus Hollandicus 07/27/2017 at 11:01

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I haven’t been able to find but one 6-speed 2.0T Camaro. Deals may be had on autos, maybe not on mannies.

Nymphicus Hollandicus > Arrivederci 07/27/2017 at 11:03

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When we drive the 4 and V6 back to back, we’ll know. Right now the only advantage I can think over the turbo would be the sound, GM 4-cylinders sound weak.

Nymphicus Hollandicus > LongbowMkII 07/27/2017 at 11:04

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I’ll keep that in mind when I go for a test drive.

Arrivederci > Nymphicus Hollandicus 07/27/2017 at 11:04

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Great point - see if it’s worth the premium!

nerd_racing > Nymphicus Hollandicus 07/27/2017 at 11:11

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I assume this is supposed to be his reliable, everyday practical car? I have a Mazda 3i sport hatch that works great for that. I’d go with the 2.5L if I bought it again though. The 2.0L is kinda slow, but I get 42 mpg most road trips.

Nymphicus Hollandicus > Nibbles 07/27/2017 at 11:11

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The dealer my dad goes to usually has at least 2-4 of those.

Nymphicus Hollandicus > nerd_racing 07/27/2017 at 11:14

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This will be his everyday car, it doesn’t need to be very practical since there’s a 2005 Pilot that can handle bigger tasks.

Nibbles > Nymphicus Hollandicus 07/27/2017 at 11:15

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Nice. Everywhere I’ve gone they have V6 mannies and SS Mannies and 2.0T autos

One shop did try to give me 12 grand off an SS1 mannie vert. I really really wanted to pull that trigger; the new Camero looks so good with the top down

nerd_racing > Nymphicus Hollandicus 07/27/2017 at 11:33

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Well shoot, I’d still suggest something Asian, but that’s just my preference.